How long is a piece of string?
Filed under: Getting Published, Writing Advice
I have mentioned previously that the ideal length for a manuscript is between 80,000 and 100,000 words, but as your questions have highlighted, there is often a bit more to it than that…
The word length for a manuscript is not set in stone, but here are some general guidelines that are well worth bearing in mind as you write, and of course later as you submit.
Think of a paperback that you own which is between 300 and 400 pages: this is the typical paperback novel and it’s almost certainly 80,000 to 100,000 words long.
But, here are some of the common variations you might encounter:
- a literary novel can often weigh in as shorter, say 60,000 to 80,000 words
- a ‘blockbuster’ can be longer, as can a sci-fi or historical fiction novel. (Crime tends to stay within the typical length.)
- a children’s book is normally shorter and a picture book (being mainly illustration based) can be as little as 100 words
- a children’s novel for 5- to 8-year-olds is likely to be around 20,000 words
- Once you are writing for the 8- to 12-year market, I would aim for around 40,000 words. (Teen or cross-over fiction comes in at adult fiction lengths.)
Why does amy of this matter? And surely if you have written a masterpiece, the publisher should accept the length as it is? Well maybe. Publishers are driven in equal measures by commercial and creative impulses. They will still consider the odd anomaly – but you are then having to persuade them that much more that your work is worth taking on.
Why make it harder for yourself? Working within a length framework gives you structure, and also a guide as to how much time you have to develop a plot, and introduce characters.
Good luck!
Cressida
(editorial consultant)
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TR1980 on
Nov 12, 2009 at 18:33pm
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Nov 14, 2009 at 02:39am
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Nov 16, 2009 at 14:49pm
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Dec 17, 2009 at 08:56am
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Elizowe on
Dec 26, 2009 at 10:07am
This is a worry of mine concerning the book I am currently working on. Each of the first ten chapters is coming in at lengths varying between 1000 and 2,500 words. What happens if I come to the end and only have 40,000 words in total – is this too short for any agent or publisher to bother with?
Sorry, but I have some trouble with this. It seems to me that you must write the story you have, as well as you can, and finish only when it is done, not when some more marketable word count is achieved.
This terrifies me, but at the same time I think it’s better to have something to aim for. The first draft of my manuscript has ended up being 30,000 words – I know that’s more or less a novella, but rather than being discouraged it has given me an opportunity to think about what is missing from my story; what other elements can I add? Can I explore the relationships between characters further? Can I create more of a world around my plot?
As a second year university student, I shouldn’t be spending so much time on my manuscript, particularly as my Creative Writing tutor was incredibly scathing about my first chapter, but I’m learning, and writing as I learn.
Well, I have to say that I’m encouraged by these responses. Onward, then, to the end, wherever that may eventually be!
TR1980 – there are no guidelines when it comes to chapter length, except that it’s worth remembering that the average paperback book will fit in 350-400 words on a page. If your chapter is 1,000 words long, it will only go over 2 and a half pages, so it may be what you are writing aren’t chapters as such – but more where your narrative takes a natural break.
Paul Lamb – I absolutely agree with you, you must write as you feel it – not to marketing rules, but it is worth knowing what the industry expects, should you wish to take it further, and try for publication.
Publishers will accept books that are outside of these guidelines, but they will have to find them exceptional to take them forward. A good novel that is too long might be rejected under those circumstances because the editor cannot justify the length.
ToxicParadox – you raise a good point. The suggested lengths aren’t arbitrary, they are what the reader has come to expect will encompass all the elements of a good novel, explored at a length that ‘feels’ right. Sometimes you begin to write a novel, and realise it’s a short story, or vice versa.
Good luck with all your projects,
Cressida
Length, yes, I guess it’s important. Mind you as a short story writer I’ve had feedback on some of my works which suggests the particular story in question would make a good novel – hum, perhaps so – but then I’d probably go and ruin it!
I believe it’s possible to write an exciting and gripping story in under 500 words as in one flash fiction piece I wrote some time back [it's title is "Allahu Akbar!"] This story can found in my Ebook “Short Story Trilogy”; my profile page here has the details.
Anyhow, whatever length a story is, if it’s a good read then it’s been worth the effort writing it. Now to my next project…
Still believe in the old fashoined way that if I have to manipulate the word count of my story (that is, increase/ reduce without sufficient literary reasons) just to get it published, I’d rather prefer to remain unpublished
Hi Cressida,
First of all: thank you for all your useful tips on this site.
I have a question on finding an agent, but I can’t leave a comment at the blog about that subject.
I am not from the UK, and English is not even my first language. I am a (commercial) writer in my native language though, I write for television and for magazines in my home country. However, I have recently finished a novel that I have written in English (I am bilingual) and that I think appeals to the English- speaking market more than to the market in my home country.
(One of the reasons I wrote the novel in English is because one of my main characters is an American, and the story is very much dialogue driven.)
My question is this: do you have any tips for bilingual writers? Would you recommend sending my synopsis and a covering letter to an agent in the UK, or do you think it is better to just target publishers in my own country, even though English is not the first language here?
Tomscribe – do you remember there was a competition years ago for Mini Sagas? You had to get across a story in exactly 50 words – and some were surprisingly moving and astute.
sidban1 – it’s important to make all cuts (or indeed increases) with editorial integrity. It’s just worth knowing what constraints most editors have to work within if you do choose to submit your work for publication.
Audrey-K – the comments close after 90 days so that is probably why the blog entry you mention isn’t accepting any further posts. It’s hard to answer your question without knowing which country you’re in, but it would depend what the market is like for English literature there. The UK does have a good track record for publishing authors for whom English isn’t their first language – Joseph Conrad is a case in point!
Oh dear.
Now I’m worried! I’m 10,000 words in and I’m still in the early stages of establishing characters and their back-stories! I’m clinging to the phrase “a ‘blockbuster’ can be longer, as can a sci-fi or historical fiction novel” as my current piece has elements of both sci-fi and historical fiction. At the rate I’m going, my novel could be turning into a trilogy! Still, as most writers on here have said (and in my humble, inexperienced opinion, they are right!) if it takes 50 words or 500,000 words to tell your story, then so be it. Surely, if the work turnsout to be too long for its genre, it’s down to the publisher to discuss with the author the possibility of serialising the story?
Thanks Cressida,
I find your blog advice really helpful. As someone who tends to write short first, I like knowing the guidelines. In later drafts I add in dialogue and try to move from reporting the story to letting the characters speak for themselves.
As a reader I prefer novels around 100,000 words, they fit in my bag! And if its a series or a trilogy that’s excitig too. What I dislike is books, literary or commercial, that seem to go off on long page-filling tangents of description for no apparent reason other than to add words…My prediction is that the trend for paperbacks will be less words in future not more – what do you think?











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