Word count for a YA fantasy novel?

by Kimberley Stevens
11th January 2014

Is 109,000 words to long for a YA/ adult fantasy novel?

The problem I'm having is that I'm thinking it's to long. But I can't edit any more out otherwise the story line is going to be way to fast paced or important plot threads are going to be missed, which is going to ruin the book and the sequel.

Thanks for any useful help :)

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So the YA summery put out makes sense, but i have no idea where people get these fantasy word count averages. Seriously, below are some of the word counts of fantasy books -

FIRST LAW (Abercrombie, Joe)
⁠The Blade Itself - 191,200
⁠Before They Are Hanged - 198,300
⁠Last Argument of Kings - 234,100
⁠Best Served Cold - 227,700
⁠The Heroes - 203,400
⁠Red Country - 172,100
⁠A Little Hatred - 187,200
The Trouble With Peace - 195,000

RED RISING (Brown, Pierce)
⁠Red Rising - 140,940
⁠Golden Son - 165,735
⁠Morning Star - 189,950
⁠Iron Gold - 203,435
⁠Dark Age - 295,510

CODEX ALERA (Butcher, Jim)
⁠Furies of Calderon - 172,000
⁠Academ's Fury - 182,990
⁠Cursor's Fury - 178,205
⁠Captain's Fury - 170,085
⁠Princeps' Fury - 153,845
⁠First Lord's Fury - 208,655

MALAZAN (Erikson, Steven and Esselmont, Ian)
Gardens of the Moon - 226,635
⁠Deadhouse Gates - 296,525
⁠Memories of Ice - 382,075
⁠House of Chains - 305,225
⁠Midnight Tides - 270,135
⁠The Bonehunters - 365,400
⁠Reaper's Gale - 382,365
⁠Toll the Hounds - 382,945
⁠Dust of Dreams - 376,130
⁠The Crippled God - 394,545

THE FAITHFUL AND THE FALLEN (Gwynne, John)
Malice - 224,895
⁠Valor - 207,060
⁠Ruin - 246,210
⁠Wrath - 203,290

WHEEL OF TIME (Jordan, Robert)
⁠The Eye of the World - 310,191
⁠The Great Hunt - 260,353
⁠The Dragon Reborn - 243,574
⁠The Shadow Rising - 385,413
⁠The Fires of Heaven - 345,954
⁠Lord of Chaos - 395,135
⁠A Crown of Swords - 287,719
⁠The Path of Daggers - 222,844
⁠Winter's Heart - 238,825
⁠Crossroads of Twilight - 264,669
⁠Knife of Dreams - 314,106
⁠The Gathering Storm - 296,226
⁠Towers of Midnight - 325,998
⁠A Memory of Light - 361,158

A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE (Martin, George R. R.)
⁠A Game of Throne - 296,901
⁠A Clash of Kings - 321, 676
⁠A Storm of Swords - 414,792
⁠A Feast for Crows - 296,989
⁠A Dance with Dragons - 413,202

POWDER MAGE (McClellan, Brian)
⁠Promise of Blood - 165,455
⁠The Crimson Campaign - 174,435
⁠The Autumn Republic - 168,635
⁠Sins of Empire - 176,500
⁠Wrath of Empire - 189,000
⁠Blood of Empire - 190,000

KINGKILLER CHRONICLES (Rothfuss, Patrick)
⁠The Name of the Wind - 259,000
⁠The Wise Man's Fear - 395,000

MISTBORN (Sanderson, Brandon)
⁠The Final Empire - 210,103
⁠The Well of Ascension - 244,371
⁠The Hero of Ages - 225,372

STORMLIGHT ARCHIVE (Sanderson, Brandon)
⁠The Way of Kings - 386,470
⁠Words of Radiance - 398,238
⁠Oathbringer - 454,440
Rhythm of War - 459,629

And so many more. I don't know where the idea that 100-120k is normal. Maybe 150k, but there are LOTs and LOTs of examples of 200k+

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If I were you, I wouldn't worry much.

And Anthony seems to have summed up everything! :D

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Book 1 of my YA Fantasy is 99k trimmed down from 107k.

Anthony's right. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

If the text is already as tight and economical as you can make it, and every sentence counts, then the agent will notice that rather than the word count :)

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